Frequently Asked Questions | Holland America There won't be any after its gone. The random serves NO purpose, except harassment UNLESS TSA would escort you directly to screening. Not worried about this, i have not waited more than 5 mins in a TSA or clear line in years, so not concerned at all if there is all of a sudden an influx of crew members in the TSA that just means i have to wait 6 mins instead of 3. Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. I'm a crew member and lately the random checks have increased to the point of ridiculous. I am not trying to disparage flight attendants, of course they are important but they are not the same as pilots and there are multiple rational grounds for distinguishing between them. Uh huh. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. I have. Dangerous goods permitted in carry-on baggage are also permitted "on one's person", except where otherwise specified. Just give us a dedicated crew only lane. On October 21, 1520 Magellan finally entered the strait that he had been seeking and that came to bear his name. If the investigation results in regulatory findings, including a Warning Notice, loss of KCM privileges will continue for the period of time that TSA has determined is necessary. DGU W2VTsscpKX Ub. A. KCM is designed to confirm an airline flight -crew member's identity and current employment status, expedite their access to sterile areas of airports, reduce backlogs, increase throughput at passenger -screening checkpoints, and make How insulting! Who is to say they can't hand off drugs or weapons. Did you mean minutes? That being said, as a retired airline pilot, what business is it of the TSA. I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. If you arrive at the busiest times, youll see dozens of airport staff coming thru the PreCheck positions. Its harassment as far as Im concerned its very frustrating to go through this every time you come to work. They just walk all the way inside the secured area without being challenged or ID/Badge checked. endstream endobj 66 0 obj <>stream %PDF-1.4 % 0000004455 00000 n The neck tattoo guy isn't. If the pilots on a flight become incapacitated, the lives of everyone on board are jeopardized; if the flight attendants become incapacitated, it is a relatively minor inconvenience unlikely to result in any sort of injury to anyone. What items are prohibited onboard a Royal Caribbean cruise ship? Then you have to listen to passengers complain and ask why your late. Security and Baggage Advice | New Delhi Airport 0000001146 00000 n Report: TSA Ending Known Crewmember Program In 2023, My take on TSA Known Crewmember Program changes, How To Check TSA PreCheck Hours & Availability, Yuck: TSA Finds Gun Hidden In Raw Chicken, Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, On the one hand, I do think its time that some changes are made to the Known Crewmember Program, purely based on the number of people who have abused it, On the other hand, fully screening pilots and flight attendants will take up more TSA resources and could lead to longer lines at security; furthermore, the TSA isnt actually very good at finding hidden objects, At least in the case of pilots, I think screening is kind of unnecessary, since theyre flying the plane, and if they wanted to do something, Ultimately I also get the argument that the TSA isnt there to stop drugs, but rather to stop weapons; that being said, if someone is smuggling kilos of cocaine and fentanyl, getting that off the streets (or out of the skies) doesnt seem like a bad thing. endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream Then quit and go work somewhere else. (Id really be interested to know what the stats are on that??) Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. If there is to be no special consideration for a FA then there should be none for pilots. So much so, that I usually just go to security line. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. But of course, they would have to pay them more. Life rafts are located on Deck 7 . This is not a U.S. government site. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. Some times 10 or 15 TSA screeners at the same time. All such a joke, Just ban flight attendants from the program, done. If the crewmember/s indicates possession of the items above or personal international travel, the TSO will notify a Supervisory-TSO (STSO). If a crewmember believes that a KCM denial occurred relative to employment status, they should proceed to the passenger-screening checkpoint for screening and, when time permits, ask an airline supervisor for assistance with the airline KCM record. I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. Instead it should focus on how TSA has become more relaxed and lazy at doing their jobs and are short staffed and dont have officers to man the KCM station so everytime someone Blame it on the flight attendants, but oh the pilots wouldn't try to smuggle anything. Then to say the flight attendants can make a few runs and make their salary. Known Crewmember What You Need To Know! Besides should you be focusing your energy on more important things like fighting the company to allow male FAs to wear blouses and heels! All rights reserved. . Also, the US is rolling out more and more high tech scanners which are much faster. #3 is DEN - they do a secondary screening where they swipe the crew member's hands and test the swab in a machine. The transportation of such items is restricted and governed by the Civil Aviation Regulations. Stay mad, everyone. Thank you for listening to ALL my pain points. 31 years as an airline pilot and seven years naval aviator. Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in security? If someone smuggles drugs or other prohibited items through security or customs, bust them and prosecute, dont completely attempt to re invent the wheel by punishing everyone. Secondly, its rather disturbing that TSA agents have very little oversight in regards to entering secure areas with bags, purses, etc. ]m+o^tw?Mxw7{[7Clikcno9b. Wade through passengers and bags if you need to. No one would do it. Crewmembers may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. And nothing to do with YOU! Highly incorrect. I stopped using it entirely for about 2 months now. The TSA is just theater of the absurd (95% fail rate*) . a. Airline pilot here. You guys walk right up to the front of the queue. I am a U.S. airline pilot, and while disappointing, this development was not unexpected. Failure to submit to screening at the passenger screening checkpoint (e.g., using a SIDA badge to avoid screening) is considered circumvention of screening, and TSA may take enforcement action in accordance with the KCM Disqualification Protocols (KCMDP). When you have unaccompanied baggage, two copies of written declaration forms are required to submit at the time of your entry, one of which will be returned to you with the seal of certification by a Customs officer. COVID cruises: Ships sailed on despite the coronavirus, and thousands What an absolute joke that anyone thinks there is any benefit at all to safety to screen pilots at TSA checkpoints. 2) You want to make the people who cross umpteen timezones for your safety stand around like the rest of you cheap cattle car bovines, watch crews take their sweet time at the back of the two hour A lot of money from pilot dues was spent by the Air Line Pilots Association to help get the Known Crew Member program going. b. 1) Its pretty insulting to trash the time & money spent. Association of Flight Attendants-CWA - AFA United MEC, 2020 Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. Now its being taken away. The government-approved Known Crewmember (KCM) program allows Flight Attendants and Pilots at many airlines to enjoy the convenience of an expedited security screening. Again, the TSA doesn't handle drug cases but if they do even random checks and find something that is illegal, they are going to refer it to local or federal police. Scissors with blade length less than 4 inches . It also has warned that such violations could jeopardize the entire Known Crew Member program. Having an off duty employee pass rider clogging up lines that they didnt subscribe/pay for is spitting into face of the passengers that do. And how might a TSA random screening have prevented the German wings incident? Why even bother with KCM? must be screened at the passenger-screening checkpoint. You also are aware that pilots have had their fair share of violations with kcm too, right? Once a gangster town. always a gangster town - starting at the top down (with the exclusion of The Obamas - they were the major good that ever came out of Chicago). While prohibited and restricted items may sound the same, there is an actual difference - prohibited items must never be sent in the post, while restricted items may be sent in the post, but restrictions will apply. Making all of us lose this privilege will soon tax tsa, delay flights and and expand misconnects. While I am an airline pilot, I fly for a major cargo airline and thankfully dont have to deal with the incompetent TSA smurfs. Meanwhile with all this new increase of Random checks I've been bypassing KCM and just doing the regular line. Prior to the Known Crewmember program and their dedicated lines, it was not uncommon to spend 10-15 minutes being delayed as crew after crew cut in line to be screened before the regular users. If any crew member wanted to cause harm they could. who cares..I pay TSA people out of my taxes to keep a 9-11 from happening again. But now theyre gonna stop flight attendants from trafficking in fentanyl. Flight attendants are first responders..they are highly trained professionals.even if some refuse to acknowledge it. You dont have flight attendants so have no special procedures during flight. Crewmembers traveling with pets will be directed to the passenger-screening checkpoint and screened in accordance with TSA screening procedures.