In the final evaluation, though, my opinion is that the NGX is still comparable to other complex aircraft add-ons. You can also tell it would spread a Fire fast in any crash if ON. What is your take on the sound, Stefan? Holger: Nick Collett from Angle of Attack has published a walkaround through the virtual cockpit on Vimeo that shows not only design-specific details but also introduces some of the systems. And of course there are also pilots such as Oski who have not experienced a single CTD to date. A comparison would have to be made, though, across the whole range from the -600 to the -900. As a user, you dont have total control over all sound levels except, that is, if you have some knowledge of the sound.cfg file and fiddle around with it. Should the autopilot control be realistic or simplified? check out the. With this present product, however, the shadows are very few and far between. And if the nitpickers now go searching for non-functional switches or panels, they will quickly find something in this area: The radar image, which can also be overlaid on the ND, does not exist. You will find the signature editor on the ACCOUNT tab, about half way down the page. Movieman162, January 8, 2012 in PMDG 737NGX | 737NGXu, HiI have just done two flight in the 737-800NGX Winglets aircraft and on both at one point or another in climb i got the cabin altitude warning horn. This review was originally published in German on our sister site www.simflight.de and has been kindly translated by Martin Boehme. Honestly speaking I would feel very uncomfortable about this in real life, particularly if you consider that one of the main purposes of a go-around is to regain altitude quickly. Check your pressurization panel. Sound environment built using recordings from a purpose-instrumented airplane recording effort. However, it said that in September, an unnamed airplane operator reported that both switches had failed on three different 737 models it tested. They use entirely different methods of calculation and therefore cannot yield the same results. endobj Precision Manuals Development Group (PMDG) has followed suit and recently released their interpretation of the Boeing 737 NG. If not, we will of course need to divert to the takeoff alternate. The reason is simple: The PMDG B737 NGX has really been simulated almost completely in all systems including Flight Guidance, of course. What is that sound for and how do I fix it/turn it off? The aerodynamic purpose of this is not quite clear to me, but it is definitely beautiful to watch. The way Oski describes it you probably dont have much time for wild mouse acrobatics. So lets leave it at very good or excellent. Honeywell or Collins MCP? 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It added: "Addressing these failures requires immediate action.". This page was generated at 03:28. This New Generation has a few years under its belt now, and the overhead panel really doesnt look exactly super-modern to put it mildly. But please give PMDG a bit of time its not even two weeks since the release yet. PMDG recommends the use of a 64-bit operating system. However, a few isolated but relevant problems will definitely still have to be fixed. The present 737 interpretation from PMDG, to me, is the climax of this development (for the present?). After starting engines set the top three switches to auto. Full set of ground equipment for each aircraft type, including passenger servicing vehicles. I just muted the game tho and carried on unpressurized . The only other thing I see is that you have the flight level pressure set to FL250 and you are at FL260. The one question that remains is about the reviewers choice. My old computer, a first-generation quad core with 2.93 GHz (QX6800) should probably be able to handle the PMDG, too, but a mixture of complex sceneriesandthe 737 NGX would definitely be pushing it! Can't figure it out. Problem solved. Boeing had said earlier that the reported issues with the switches didn't pose a safety concern. It is clear that PMDG has given a lot of thought to this area, and this has resulted in a first-class interaction concept. But nothing conclusive can be said yet in this respect since the shorter variants have not been released. Press J to jump to the feed. At least in normal conditions.The controllers are programmed and designed to never exceed maximum differential pressure between cabin and external air, this thing takes its part in the pressurization profile that controllers make when they know the desired crz altitude and landing altitude.Wrong data are only uncomfortable for passengers and crew.Different is for the manual mode where the pilot manually moves the valve.In this case there is only the overpressure protection wich will open the safety valves when maximum differential pressure is reached.There is no protection in manual if the airplane is de-pressurizing (except for the warning). To me, the PMDG is a perfect add-on but in view of the great add-ons that have appeared in the last three months alone, you have to be really careful not to overuse the superlative. There is an amusing aspect to the image update of the NGX in the external view. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Holger: So the complexity of this add-on can definitely be learned and experienced without needing a Level D simulator to do it. As a longtime model maker I can answer this with a clear and I admit slightly surprised yes. I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. Where can I find HGS Settings to setup the approach? Hit trip reset and switch iso valve to auto. By This is not what the FCOM describes. But I dont want to overstress this. When in AUTO MODE, or ALTERNATE (ALTN is a second automatic function, same as the AUTO mode) there is no way to reach the cabin altitude warning pressure. All times are GMT. And this is why PMDG recommend a 64-bit system in their requirements. It seems like this was achieved some other way All times are GMT. Did we ever figure out what caused the dual bleed trip? Stefan: No, on the contrary: To start the engines, youhaveto switch to the VC to open the fuel valves. Boeing 737 Switch Issue Could Cause Flight Crew - Yahoo! The NG, too, can perform a go-around from a fail-operational dual autoland configuration, but the NGX cant. We do this in order to keep conversations personal and familiar. In general I do have to say that the FMC runs quite stably and without errors. After all, this is an add-on that has been awaited for a very long time, with the focus of interest lying on the desire for a realistic implementation of the real aircraft. Hardcore simmers will surely be delighted to note that printed manuals are available covering everything from Crew Training to the Quick Reference Handbook. Though iFly has won the race with PMDG to be the first to release, many enthusiasts see PMDGs product as being far out in front after all, PMDGs developers have already delivered impressive proof of their skill in the shape of other complex airliner simulations. My specs are: Intel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.1GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit and nVidia GeForce GTX470 with 2 displays or one display for the 2D panel and a projector for the external view. Includes the the 737-900ER in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. This is one of the few rigid rules that we enforce regularly. Oski: To a certain degree: yes! An important indicator is always the transition to single-engine flight. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. Can the PMDG be flown by the numbers? But the general impression is very good. Leaving recirculation fans OFF would not prevent pressurisation. All they do is allow the packs to run at a lower airflow rate to improve fuel econ Posts that are unsigned will be quietly removed without comment by the moderators, so to make your life easy- we recommend enabling your forum signature so that you never need to remember. Where high complexity and exact design meet, even a capable family PC can reach its limits. All rights reserved. If you consider that the database consists of several tens of thousands of procedures, you can certainly imagine that there can always be a flaw somewhere. Its the same sound as the takeoff config alarm, but I get it when landing. Also, set the bleed valves to auto and the packs to auto. It issued a directive ordering that airlines check them for faults. Holger: Performance is a good key word. Webboeing, table 2 boeing the boeing company, 747 441 operations manual narod ru, eicas cabin altitude controllable flight, boeing 757 200 300 rev 30 federal aviation administration, qualitywings simulations ultimate 757 collection, 757 eicas pptx powerpoint vdocuments mx, serious incident smartcockpit, boeing 757 eicas manual jadschildrencenter org How to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) Holger: Oski, we really expect an exact systems simulation from PMDG. Holger: When the BAe Jetstream was released, Robert Randazzo, the head of PMDG, wrote that there would be no more add-ons with 2D panels. In principle, it does not take particular effort to fly. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, is there a way to turn off this warning/alarm? I checked failiures since i just wanted a routine flight and there was none, however it the horn was sounding. The FAA said it doesn't have enough information yet to explain why the failure rate of the switches is "unexpectedly high" and recommended that airlines return any failed switches so that the switch manufacturer, which it didn't name, could investigate the issue. After this review, we will write a comparison between PMDG and iFly. Currently studying Aeronautical Engineering at Sheffield Hallam University (UK). This makes sense because I presume the max cabin altitude is somewhere in the 8-9000 ft range, but my landing altitude was set to 10,900. You always stop PACKS for Takeoffs & Landings too in case of a Go-Around. I tried pressing the master caution and warning buttons, but the alarm kept going off. Let me put it like this: The NGX autopilot makes about the same errors as a real autopilot and to a degree that is definitely justifiable and does not to be corrected. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Which of the implementations conveys the most realistic feeling of space? Now my wife's greatest friend's I from the. I had something similar happen today, it was a pressurization problem. Have fun! Oski: Well, it would be easy to hand out superlatives. The bottom line is that PMDG has released a truly excellent product! PMDG Simulations Official youTube content to aide new PMDG 737 pilots in getting the most from their purchase. But those who know me know that I generally dont do this, as no further improvement is possible beyond a superlative. No requests for links to similar sites like SimPlaza, 8. You can also use the RESET in the event one side falls down. In the real world, after all, engineers go to incredible lengths to create a human-machine interface that is as optimal as possible this is true in many fields, but particularly in aviation. Customized sound package that leverages advanced sound recording and playback technology for incredible realism. There is no perfect add-on! There would be an audible alarm, though not cabin alt horn, but master caution alarm, if UNSCHED DES is present. But it is also the add-on that has had to contend with the highest level of expectations. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. But lets put the 737 to the test, Captain! Tom Allensworth, !v2c6a=`JK\"@ O)g]BjesUb*P8z:^PHoFs\m)?)ne'k&! Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date. x[O0Oj3{1yy'>Mw{4o%w8MO]]Q/i2'wrtwQ-adceB(3Is+PXj42nW29;N$=)r@ Q| H7d*'q$HzpoF.5uj K6[I$%=Up@.N)! By the way, practically all adjustments are made via the Flight Management Computer and take immediate effect without having to restart the simulator. You may have to register before you can post: click the register Things will remain interesting, my friends. Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. Oski: Particularly innovative is not something you can really call the NG and here I mean the real aircraft even if NG stands for New Generation. Microsoft Flight Simulator Harrier Beijing San Antonio Airport Get IRL, a cabin altitude alarm is something you want to address quickly and correctly. Since 1997, we have asked users to sign their real name, first and last, to all posts in the PMDG forum. For example : the landing gear warning horn sounds continuously if you are at flaps 15+ without the gear down. There is no question: PMDG has set a milestone in the history of Microsoft Flight Simulator! By clicking Sign up, you agree to receive marketing emails from Insider What is also great is that PMDG attaches equal importance to the visual aspect of the flight experience. My specs are: Intel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.1GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit and nVidia GeForce GTX470 with 2 displays or one display for the 2D panel and a projector for the external view. Non related things I saw : Your off schedule descent is telling you, you never reached that altitude. Please be courteous, English is not my primary language. To guarantee some ahhhs and ohhhs from the FSX community, PMDG has collaborated closely with Boeing. To me, the 737 NGX is by far the best and most innovative and so the most significant aircraft add-on in a long time. In the case of the PMDG this applies to the convincing flight dynamics. In PMDGs forum, Robert S. Randazzo, the head of PMDG, confers the highest accolades on his sound designer, and I would like to echo this praise. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I see he was talking about something different now. Thought it was the other Horn he was talking about. The one that goes off when you forget to tu An unnamed operator reported that the switches failed in tests on three different 737 models. You are the connoisseur among us, with an eye for correct design. Founder of AVSIM Online. No, on the contrary: To start the engines, you. Dont forget in Flight Simulator, we move in a three-dimensional world where the position of the sun, the view of objects and the world, the depiction of weather as well as animations, systems logic and high-resolution textures have to be computed anew with every frame! But that usually takes a bit of effort, and many simmers still shy away from that. Finally, Holger Kistermann. . For PMDG, this is already the second time they have created a Boeing 737 NG: In 2003, they released the first version, which was implemented for FS2002 and FS2004. A negative point that I noticed and again this applies to my multi-screen 2D environment is the fact that various sounds drop out when the focus switches from the main screen to one of the auxiliary screens. Posts that are unsigned will be quietly removed without comment by the moderators, so to make your life easy- we recommend enabling your forum signature so that you never need to remember. It is the same loud noise as the beep alarm that sounds when you aren't in takeoff configuration. We do this in order to keep conversations personal and familiar. Max landing altitude is 8400. And there is an almost unlimited range of solutions to this problem. When I browse various forums and seeinexperienced simmers asking questions on the level of what button do I need to press to take off, I do have to say that a certain level of expertise is required. This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. Whether this particular behaviour is seen specifically on the NG is something I dont know. I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. Cabin Altitude: Controllable or Uncontrollable - YouTube Frank Schmidts review of the Diamond Katana might have something to do with that I now have an i7 Sandy Bridge processor (2600K) that runs at up to 3.8 GHz. Stefan, can this complexity actually be operated well? From the extension of the flaps to the wing flex on takeoff! In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. Holger: Frank, who recently wrote the review for the DA-20 Katana, pointed out the cockpit crew animations to me. Your cabin altitude is 13000ft. Even in critical situations I can make all necessary inputs using my mouse hand without having to let go of the yoke, for instance to open a panel (I have a Saitek yoke/throttle unit and rudder pedals). Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. PMDG enable their customers to equip their aircraft as they please the real aircraft is available in different configurations, and the same is possible in the simulator. And of course this entails that you need to obtain the necessary documents and work them through. Feb. 2018 um 9:58 Ursprnglich geschrieben von The aircraft they have delivered this time round, however, is really quite beautiful and modelled in great detail; it even features a cabin that is visible from the external view, which is not really typical for PMDG. All of this at unbelievably high prices but this is an indulgence die-hard 737 simmers will grant themselves. I was landing at a high elevation airport (10,900 feet) and the cabin altitude warning came on. PMDG obviously did not want to expose themselves on this flank, which is why the add-on contains a balanced mixture of detail and functionality, without losing itself in resource-hungry bling-bling a la CaptainSim. Cabin Altitude Warning Horn - PMDG 737NGX - The You cant improve on perfect syntactically maybe, but not semantically. Giuseppe Nelva We start a release, the DHC-1 Chipmunk, which was launched by Aeroplane Heaven. Check if the packs are turned on. Once you start to achieve your first successes with this, you should be ready to hazard a step into a real Level D simulator and try your hand at the real thing. But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. Depends what aircraft you are flying. Great review, a pleasure to read. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You can probably tell that many of these questions will not interest most virtual Boeing captains, who follow the motto: Can I use this to recreate my last summer holiday flight or not? But those who have knowledge of the subject matter and know what the different configuration options mean will find great satisfaction in them. Holger: Stefan, if you look at photos of a real 737 NG and compare them with the PMDG copy, you conclude that it comes pretty close to the original. Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. After all, they convert the data according to the add-on developers specifications. 1 0 obj Upload New File; Discussion. An impressive experience! You've got a bleed trip off annunciation. No political discussions, go to reddit.com for that, 6. Holger: In spite of everything, we find ourselves in a two-dimensional world: We sit at a computer screen and try to operate a simulated three-dimensional world using a mouse. The engine sound, on the other hand, comes across as quite convincing. Oski: Objection, your honour! endobj To me, personally, the interaction concept of a panel is one of the topmost quality aspects of an aircraft add on. Join the flight experience and to troubleshoot for CTDs OOM Crash Free operation of FSX a.s.o. All they do is allow the packs to run at a lower airflow rate to improve fuel economy. In the system requirements, PMDG even writes something about i5 processors .In my view, that should be considered a warning. Any modern flight guidance system can handle it though only of course if the initial situation is correct. Im guessing its the alarm that you arent in landing configuration, but I have set the flaps for landing, gear is down, speedbrake is armed, what else is required for the alarm to stop? I doubt, however, whether the majority of simmers will do this and in my view, it isnt necessary. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Thursday warned of a risk that pilots and other crew members could lose consciousness if the cabin altitude switches failed. Another point that definitely deserves a positive mention: All of the load management passengers, cargo and fuel, including the correct distribution across the aircraft is carried out from the cockpit via the CDU. Stefan: To me, personally, the interaction concept of a panel is one of the topmost quality aspects of an aircraft add on. Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul.The horn will sound if the Cabin Altitude reaches 10,000.That would rarely happen in the RW.Fred. A marketing and sales director in real life, he is also a beta tester and project consultant and has been with simFlight for ages. If there is sufficient customer demand, the ER variants of the -700 and -900 may follow, but a final decision on this has not been taken. Even a few years ago, flight instructors in airliner flight schools would have shaken their heads at the mere thought. You should bring a bit of systems knowledge to the table. pmdg 737-600 cabin altitude warning :: Microsoft Flight The auto/manual mode could cause this. Its available on the developers own store and Orbx Central for $28.95 and comes with the following features. This, too, is a credit to the developers: Consciously crossing the boundary of what had been thought possible to date and pushing it out true to the American pioneer spirit of bigger, faster, further. Here, the developers blundered! The aircraft they have delivered this time round, however, is really quite beautiful and modelled in great detail; it even features a cabin that is visible from the external view, which is not really typical for PMDG. 4 0 obj The first steps are PPAA -> Power Performance Analysis Action to achieve safe single-engine flight; next, we want to restore system redundancy to the degree possible while of course not forgetting to navigate and under coordination with ATC to manoeuvre to a position from which, after re-programming the FMC, a single engine approach can be made to the departure airport, if this is possible from a meteorological and operational point of view. PMDG 737 The radar panel is dead! But of course it is true that you should equip yourself with enough hardware that the mouse has to be used as little as possible no matter whether you use the VC or the 2D panels. High complexity, good design and great sound do not necessarily guarantee that flying the PMDG will provide hours of fun with lots of ahhhs and ohhhs.
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